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So sick over this

I got this email from Emory a few days ago, but I ignored it as junk mail asking me for money. Man, I wish I never opened it. I'm sick over. It's good for people that are going there now, but what about people like me? People whose parents "made too much money" for qualifying for financial aid. My mother made $50,000 when I went to Emory and had $100,000+ in medical bills because of Tara, and yet that was too much money. I have $50,000 in Emory student loans.

This is such a slap in the face to all of us that have ridiculous loans, I want to cry. Why not offer us some relief too?


Emory University announced today the establishment of Emory Advantage, a program of financial aid initiatives that will help lower- and middle-income students and families reduce debt incurred during the undergraduate years. The changes will begin in the 2007-08 academic year, marking one of the most aggressive programs devised by any national research university to enhance accessibility and affordability.


"These new programs will make it possible for any qualified student to obtain the advantages of an Emory education regardless of family background or circumstance," says Emory President James W. Wagner. "We are especially concerned to address the particular needs of many middle-income families, who ironically make too much money to qualify for many types of financial aid, but who find themselves unable to afford four years of college education without incurring substantial levels of debt."


Under Emory's new Loan Replacement Grant, students whose families' assessed income is $50,000 or less will graduate with no need-based loans from their four undergraduate years. Emory's new Loan Cap Program will assist students from families with assessed income between $50,001- $100,000 by capping their total need-based loan amount over four years at $15,000.


"We believe that extending loan caps to families making up to $100,000 is rare, if not unique, among our peers," says Provost Earl Lewis. "Most other loan replacement or loan cap programs are aimed primarily at low-income students."


"We are committed to providing access to an Emory education for all students," says Wagner. "An important goal is to foster further excellence of our academic community with the inclusion of highly talented students who would not have felt able to seriously consider applying to Emory in the past."


The new Loan Replacement Grant will be available to students in all four of Emory's undergraduate divisions – the two-year Oxford College, the four-year Emory College, the Nell Hodgson Woodruff School of Nursing and Goizueta Business School. The Loan Cap Program will be available to students beginning enrollment in 2007.


In another initiative announced today, Emory is rolling out new Liberal Arts Scholarships for semi-finalists applying for Emory's long-time Emory Scholars Program, recognizing outstanding academic achievement, talent, leadership and community service among high school students. The Emory Scholars program began in 1979 as a result of the $103 million gift from the Woodruff Foundation; each year the university awards some 70 scholarships to outstanding entering freshmen, including Woodruff Scholarships.


Emory also will enhance its Dean's Achievement Scholarships, rewarding academic achievement, leadership and community service among rising Emory sophomores, juniors and seniors who did not receive a merit scholarship coming from high school. "The opportunity to receive merit-based awards as a function of college performance is rare," says Robert Paul, dean of Emory College.


"We greatly value rewarding students for their ongoing excellent work in Emory College," says Thomas D. Lancaster, senior associate dean for undergraduate education and administrator of the program. The Dean's Achievement Scholars will be selected after the spring semester by a comprehensive selection committee comprised of faculty from across the university and alumni, says Lancaster. Those selected will become part of the Emory Scholars Program.


Once fully implemented, the University’s investment in these initiatives will be about $7 million per year (in today's dollars). The university's Strategic Plan funds will support the new programs for the first five years. They will be sustained by reallocating existing endowment streams of approximately $150 million and by raising at least an additional $75 million in endowment by the end of those five years, says President Wagner.

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As much as I understand your point of view (having graduated with $45K in loans from NYU and another $15K for grad school), and I would probably feel the same way if I got this from NYU, I think something like this should make us happy that steps are being taken in the right direction. Think about it this way: most of us know someone who died of cancer. If a cure was found tomorrow, we'd probably rejoice, even though it's years too late to help the people who have already died. Yes, it would be great to get some relief for us too, and yes, it sucks that it's 5 years too late for us, but at least our kids, should they choose to go to Emory, won't have to suffer through the same things we did.
Yeah, logically, I know that but still, it just pisses me off. It's more this is something they should have done years ago, and didn't. Emory's endowment is so massively huge, and they don't touch it. The school survives off the interest of the endowment, but they could be using that money to lower the cost of tuition for all students. Emory pisses away money like no one else. They spend millions on flowers just so there are fresh flowers growing on campus 365 days a year, and yet then they'll try to cut the benefits of the retired staff or take medical insurance away from spouses and children. The protest to that meeting was so huge, they had to hand out tickets to get in.

They have such a f'ed up way of handling money, it makes my blood boil.
Yeah, that's horribly misguided, I can definitely understand where you're coming from. I wonder how many schools will follow suit after this.
Hopefully all. I remember being so depressed after I found out I got in to Emory but that we had too much money (ha!) to qualify for substantial aid. I had worked so hard in high school, and did everything I needed to do to get into Emory, and yet I almost couldn't go because of money. Ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure Princeton was the first major school to start doing stuff like this. Their policy is something like if you get in, you're going. They'll find the money for you. That started my sophmore or junior year of college.
While I love Emory as an institution, I can't go there for law school. Their financial aid/scholarship application (which was due on 1 February) required not only my last year tax info (which was impossible to give because I didn't get my last W-2 until 1 February!) but my parents' info. My parents have not done their taxes yet.

This is just really annoying to me (sort of like the schools you've gotten into giving you a week to get their scholarship funding stuff done). I paid $70 to apply to Emory and now even if I get accepted I can't go because I'm not paying 37K/year to attend just because I couldn't get their scholarship form filled out in time.

By the way, congrats on UIUC and UNC!!! That's awesome :)
i don't know you (came here through applyingtograd), but i know just how you feel. i actually turned down a very prestigious undergrad school because i could not afford to go (even with a few partial scholarships), and, having three younger sisters, could not justify putting my parents in even greater debt.

and now, the school in question waives tuition for all students from families making less than mine.

yes, this is nice for the up-and-coming, but what about me? i know it sounds selfish, but it's just...frustrating. i feel like so many things would have been different if i could've afforded to go to that school...
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